BOYNYA NOMER PYAT interview for Croatian zine Vapaus!

Well, another interview, this time translated by mimoid and yrs. truly for Croatian zine Vapaus where it’s going to appear in (what I thought was still called) Serbocroatian. It’s with another mate of mine, based in Tatarsk and once nicknamed Deth [sic]. He plays in BOYNYA NOMER PYAT who are recommended, and is also something of a crust theoretician, amongst other things.

Hi. What’s up? Can you introduce yourself for people that read this zine? Where do you come from?
My name is Alexei Shvedov. I live in a small Russian town near Novosibirsk. Along with my friends from different cities we make e-zine Diversion (crust & Japanese hardcore). Also I played in two crustpunk bands – OTKAZ OT NASILIYA (RIP) and BOYNYA NOMER PYAT. Today besides BOYNYA NOMER PYAT I work on the project UBIYTSY BUKV (noisepunk). Not long ago we’ve create a message board in English dedicated to Japanese hardcore. Also we’ve made three short films between 2005-2007 and also I write prose (bizarre sci-fi) from time to time.
What was your first introduction to punk rock or hardcore punk?
I began listening to punk and hardcore when I was a young schoolboy, it was around 1987. The first bands I heard were CRYPTIC SLAUGHTER, HYPE, DEAD KENNEDYS, D.R.I., PLASMATICS and AGNOSTIC FRONT.
What kind of punk do you like to listen to today?
I prefer Japanese hardcore and crust, also I like crust from other countries (especially not modern), various old hardcorepunk, obscure ’77 punk, so-called progcore (bands like POLARIS, HAL AL SHEDAD, KOLYA), Swedish trallpunk… and a lot more… I’m definitely not interested in metalcore, modern hardcore and emocore.
Did you have any band before OTKAZ OT NASILIYA?
Yes, since 1990 I played in several punk-bands, but for the most part they lacked any social or political overtones: SIBIRSKIY MASTURBATOR, O.M.O.N., ORGAZM NE NASTUPIL. One of the most interesting bands that I can mention is DEGENERAL KREIZ (1992-95, instrumental noise). Not one of them is known abroad, but once I’ve seen a song by O.M.O.N. on some compilation.
So what can you tell me about OTKAZ OT NASILIYA? Why did you call the band like that? Who was in the band? Which bands influenced you? How did people react on your music? Did the band have some political background?
The name of the band was taken from some book on Eastern philosophy which I was interested in those days. OTKAZ OT NASILIYA is Russian translation of the term ahimsa (non-violence or disviolence). The lyrics were pretty dark and sociopolitical for the most part. Though sometimes they inclined into reflections. Despite the fact that I was interested in sXe ideology at that time, I was more attracted by crust and discore. People from TOCHKA ZRENIYA, P.A.R.A.S.I.T.E. and others helped me to make a recording. There were two albums recorded, both were released on Moscow label Popa Begemota Records in the late 90s. The first demo was also published on 4-way split tape (SzSS label, Russia). Besides positive reviews there were some negative ones when people not into crust judged it totally inadequately. It looked both wild and funny.
I heard that OON was sXe band. So, are you still sXe? Can you describe your attitude towards sXe (I mean why are you sXe, if you are..)…
OON wasn’t a straightedge band as such, though I called myself sXe at that time. But that lasted for two years only and hasn’t reflected on band’s lyrics. Only there was a song “No To Alcohol” (later it was included in some Asian compilation tape), but it was not against alcohol primarily but against people who couldn’t control themselves in this matter. Today I regard straightedgers with caution, I don’t have interest or even sympathy for their music, lyrics and living attitude. But at the same time I prefer not to consume alcohol because it’s very comfortable, practical and pleasant.
Why did the band break up?
There were too many conflicts among people during recording and in real life…
So, after OON you formed BOYNYA NOMER PYAT. What does that mean? What kind of music you play? Do you still play?
The first demo of BOYNYA NOMER PYAT was recorded in 2005, though the material was prepared much earlier. Previously many local groups had the opportunity to record any time and for free because some of our friends worked in a small studio. But after the studio was closed it’s problematic to make any records. That’s the reason for such delays. Still I did want to play crust-based music, but without the DISCHARGE influence, so BOYNYA NOMER PYAT sounds like something between TOTALITAR, CRUDITY and Japanese crashercrust. Again I’m on vocals and guitar. The name of the group was taken from eponymous novel by Kurt Vonnegut – “Slaughterhouse-Five”. Two demos and split with UBIYTSY BUKV (all this had never been released but is available for download in mp3 format) were made. On the second demo I partially used tapes that remained after rehearsal of the third album by OON which has been never recorded.
Why you are those two bands only studio projects?
It’s very difficult to play in a band with people who do not share your opinion about reality. The problem is even not in different ideology nor in politics but in different perception of the world and personal attitude towards some processes. Also some of the musicians I played with became nationalists and I had no intention to collaborate with them. That’s why last records were performed with session musicians. Or from time to time I make it on my own (last BOYNYA NOMER PYAT recording).
What can you tell me about your e-zine Diversion? Why it’s only in Russian?
We began to make “Diversion” in the late 2005 after me and my mate got tired of explaining what is crust to various people in letters. It all began with compilation of a detailed FAQ in Russian and then it was expanded with translated articles and interviews. Later we began to do interviews ourselves (ISKRA, D.S.B., INEPSY). Since the zine is focused on Russian readers all materials are published only in Russian. Also there was one paper issue which included best materials from the website and many exclusive materials. On the one hand the zine justified its purpose – the number of questions like “what is crust?” became smaller now, but on the other hand – we unintentionally launched the process of the so called “crust fashion” (“all things change into fashion”). And it’s terrible. Today the site is updated ever more seldom and I even had an urge to close it at all.
I see that you like d-beat music. So can you tell me what’s d-beat for you? Today almost every band is d-beat because this shit started to be popular. What kind of d-beat you like: stuff like TRAGEDY or “old school” stuff like SHITLICKERS, DISCLOSE…?
I like old Swedish d-beat (CRUDITY, BOMBANFALL, NO SECURITY etc.) very much. But modern stuff rather repels me, especially all these European bands in the last fashion which bred like fungi. Also I don’t like DRILLER KILLER, SKITSYSTEM and stuff like that. I like TOTALITAR, KRIGSHOT, Japanese bands ANSWER CRYING, KRIGSHOG, DEVASTATED GOES, CRUDIA… I don’t like DISCLOSE very much, they sound too monotonous. TRAGEDY worship seems to me rather absurd. Especially if we take into account that TRAGEDY adopted all the main features of their “trademark style” from Japanese hardcore (some of their imitators have no idea about this and as a result they’re copying from a copy without any suspicion about the existence of the original). I’ve listened to TRAGEDY when they only appeared but today I’m not interested in them at all and I even haven’t listen to their last LP.
I’m from Croatia. Do you know any band from here?
Alas, I don’t know any contemporary Croatian bands. And after your country split into many fragments I no longer understand anything at all. Some time I’ve listened to old cassette compilations of Yugoslavian bands, but by now I remember little of it.
What can you tell me about your town scene? Is it hard to find places to play? Do you have some squats?
In the 1990s in our town there were several interesting bands and projects, but after one studio (which was also the place to jam) has closed everything has gone downhill. In my opinion, now there are no interesting new bands in our town, and the people who used to play punk in the nineties (myself included) prefer to do studio projects. A couple of years ago out of curiousity I went to a gig by some local pop punk bands, but that was just out of curiousity. So as far as punk rock is concerned everything’s dead here now.
Do you have problems with nazi skinheads? I heard that you in Russia have big problems with them, they are well organised and they kill people.
In our particular town there are no physical problems with nazis, although sometimes I have to take part in stupid debates with them because some old acquaintances have become nationalists, so I meet them sometimes, no matter if I want it or not (thankfully it doesn’t happen very often). In general, Russia has a lot of problems with nazi skins. They target both DIY activists and “normal” people. In the last couple of years nazi skins have committed several high-profile murders in different cities. They kill in the middle of the day and at night, always in a crowd. And that seems to be spreading. The more stupid the ideology – the more followers it has. All of Russian segment of the internet is full of nazi propaganda and descriptions of their “exploits”, and nothing could be done about it. I mean, the resistance is there, but the phenomenon is on too large a scale to be uprooted easily. As they feel their relative impunity, the nazis are getting more and more insolvent. Recently in Moscow a crowd of such mad teenagers have killed a well-known chess player from Yakutia (their choice was, of course, random). Most of them were arrested but naturally that didn’t reduce the number of their followers. The state doesn’t show much interest in the problem (although at times it does pretend), and most nazi attacks are treated by the police as hooliganism.
How is situation in your country right now? Is it hard to live in Russia?
In my understanding, Russia is a totally monstrous country with absolutely insane mentality. When it went from faux socialism into fake capitalism everything here got even more perverted, and all of life is going on as if in absurd theatre. Although, of course, you can adapt and not pay attention to it all, taking those monstrosities simply as natural phenomena like rain or hail. The education system isn’t good at all and is falling apart all the time, same thing with culture. I’m annoyed by glamourizing and propaganda of criminality in the mass media. The salaries are generally too low and do not correspond with prices for goods and services, although in the big cities it’s a bit easier. The police are corrupt and criminalised. There’s no hope at all that the situation will improve.
Do you want to add something in the end?
I don’t really know… Maybe I’ll just tell the readers of your zine that they shouldn’t follow some stupid fashion and not do to others what they don’t wish for themselves.

http://diversion.test-machine.com/ – e-zine DIVERSION
http://www.test-machine.com/sh5.html – BOYNYA NOMER PYAT
http://diversion.test-machine.com/disviolence/disviolence.html – OTKAZ OT NASILIYA
http://test-machine.com/burning_japan/– Japanese hardcore message board

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